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There is a Christanic death cult on the undernet IRC server called #apologetics. The cult members try to convince each other that they have evidence for their deity constructs while at the same time pretending that their own cult is something unique that didn't have its basis in many previous religions (such as Mithra, Loki, Summerian grain gods etc. and et al.)


* LC1.ZIP Liars Club text 1: Denial that Mithra forms much of Christianity; denial that virgin births were common; denials that Christian mythologies _are_ mythologies
* LC2.ZIP Liars Club text 2: Lack of understanding scientific method, evidence vs. proof, and who holds the burden of evidence; hitler
* LC3.ZIP Liars Club text 3: Christanic mythology and Muslim; denial that both have been revised, translated, interpreted et al.
* LC4.ZIP Liars Club text 4: Defense of lack of evidence for the death cult's deity constructs by pretending reality can't be proven; tries to define 'weak atheism' vs. 'strong atheism' -- forgets
* LC5.ZIP Liars Club text 5: Tries to defend hatred of women by enforced birth as equal to rape; abortion
* LC6.ZIP Liars Club text 6: Tries to defend the lack of evidence for the Christanic deity constructs by demanding one can't prove materialism is a valid 'philosophy.'
* LC8.ZIP Liars Club text 8: No description yet
* LC10.ZIP Liars Club text 10: Rationalist points out that theists have a history of murdering millions then cultist pretends old Soviet Union was atheist, typically ignoring differences between re
* LC11.ZIP Liars Club text 11: An attempt to defend the assumption that there are deities; abortion.
* LC12.ZIP Liars Club text 12: Attempts to ignore the fact that the hebrew word 'Elohim' as used in the Christanic mythologies are a pantheon of deity constructs, not just one -- in contradiction t
* LC13.ZIP Liars Club text 13: Death cultist is asked why they're a member of the death cult and the cultist explains that he feels worthless without his addiction - pretends he's afflicted with th
* LC14.ZIP Liars Club text 14: Rationalist points out that death cultists deny the 'basis for science, math, philosophy or logic... kinda shoot yourself in the foot'
* LC17.ZIP Liars Club text 17: Death cultist demands his deity constructs are 'immutable' while ignoring the fact that the paper mythologies the cultist's deity constructs are based upon have been
* LC18.ZIP Liars Club text 18: Someone tries to redefine the word 'fundamentalist,' pretending it hasn't always ment what it does now. Abortion;
* LC19.ZIP Liars Club text 19: Denial that Mithra forms much of Christianity; abortion;
* LC20.ZIP Liars Club text 20: Denial that Mithra forms much of Christianity; abortion;
* LC21.ZIP Liars Club text 21: Death cultist ignores evolution and demands that there is 'order and structure' in the universe while painting a characterization of a pretend atheist who is as ignor
* LC22.ZIP Liars Club text 22: No real value; no discussion of any kind
* LC23.ZIP Liars Club text 23: Death cultist demands the 'real question' is whether to believe in the Christanic death cult's pantheon or 'construct a representation of reality for ourselves apart
* LC24.ZIP Liars Club text 24: Cultist attacks naturalism and reason
* LC25.ZIP Liars Club text 25: '...one cannot KNOW anything. Therefore, the argument that one must presuppose theism to know anything falls short.'
* LC26.ZIP Liars Club text 26: A rationalist points out that morality, ethics et al. don't require deity constructs, pointing out that there is no need for deity constructs to watch over people. C
* LC27.ZIP Liars Club text 27: A cultist tries to pretend that scientific method is no more than 'a system of belief' - while ignoring the fact that scientific method has a proven track record of h
* LC28.ZIP Liars Club text 28: Someone points out that death cultist's attempts to prove their deity constructs' existence must also try to use their same reasoning to disprove their occultism. Th
* LC29.ZIP Liars Club text 29: Hitler; An inaccurate discussion about what constitutes science and what constitutes religious occultism.
* LC30.ZIP Liars Club text 30: Minor discussion on choice -- of the free-will variety.
* LC31.ZIP Liars Club text 31: Cultists demand to know how one determine truth -- while pretending they have it in their written mythologies while ignoring the contradictions and scientific errors.
* LC32.ZIP Liars Club text 32: Badly disjointed discussion about the differences between deity belief, going to a Christanic death cult's church, spirituality et al.
* LC33.ZIP Liars Club text 33: Cultist asserts that truth is all relative then gets it pointed out that Christanic death cultists pretend they have 'truth'
* LC34.ZIP Liars Club text 34: A cultist 'puts his confidence' into his doctor because his doctor is a Christian. The assumption being that the death cultist can't trust non-Christian doctors. (D
* LC35.ZIP Liars Club text 35: A minor discussion on the Christian mythology cultists call 'saved' vs. 'unsaved.' No mention of what they're 'saving' themselves from is made of course.
* LC36.ZIP Liars Club text 36: A death cultist demands 'NO ONE can forgive sins but God' (sic) while conveniently ignoring the fact that he pretends his deity constructs created that mythological c
* LC37.ZIP Liars Club text 37: 'I am a reader of the Urantia Book and the [Christanic] bible'
* LC38.ZIP Liars Club text 38: Hitler; 'Why did God create laws that could be broken (moral) and laws that could not be broken (say, gravity)?' - Ignores the fact there's no evidence for these gods
* LC39.ZIP Liars Club text 39: 'God disciplines in various ways to bring us back to Him.' A good example: Numbers 31:17-18 'Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every wom
* LC40.ZIP Liars Club text 40: Typically, a death cultist demands that atheists say there are no Christanic gods.
* LC41.ZIP Liars Club text 41: The cultists try to argue-away the revisions of their mythologies
* LC42.ZIP Liars Club text 42: Abortion; A fundamentalist tries to demand he's not a fundamentalist; A rationalist points out that Christanic 'pro-life' terrorists are responsible for the domestic
* LC43.ZIP Liars Club text 43: A cultist tries to pretend that everyone is involved in his occultism, regardless of whether they're educated or a fellow cultist.
* LC44.ZIP Liars Club text 44: Several non-Christians point out that debating Christanic death cultists always devolves to irrationality because the death cultists' cop-out of using their irrationa
* LC45.ZIP Liars Club text 45: A cultist demands that a rationalist is demanding the Christanic pantheon doesn't exist again. The rationalist points out that he's not making any assertions while t
* LC46.ZIP Liars Club text 46: A cultist admits that there's no credence in the death cult's 'proofs.'
* LC48.ZIP Liars Club text 48: 'So you apologize for xianity here?...must be a full time job'
* LC50.ZIP Liars Club text 50: A badly disjointed discussion; no real interest
* LC51.ZIP Liars Club text 51: Once again the argument about reality and unreality continues.
* LC52.ZIP Liars Club text 52: Nothing being discussed here; personal messages and such.
* LC53.ZIP Liars Club text 53: A death cultist pretend that _everyone_ in involved in his occultism by demanding everyone 'sins' -- a Christanic death cultism not evidenced in reality. This deadly
* LC54.ZIP Liars Club text 54: Denial that Mithra forms much of Christianity; abortion; Cultist pretend that evolution is something to be believed rather than accepted -- while never mentioning the
* LC55.ZIP Liars Club text 55: A death cultist tells a Buddhist that he (the Buddhist) left Christianity because he (the Buddhist) never learned what Christianity is. How's _that_ for intolerance?

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