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======== Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.usa,soc.culture.african.american,soc.culture.colombia,soc.culture.venezuela,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.mexican Subject: Re: Crack Cocaine;San Jose Mercury;George Bush Not CIA? From: interamerica@earthlink.net Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 00:45:38 -0700 Fredric L. Rice wrote: > > rsaza@puerto.net (Roberto Saza) wrote: > > >>>> It is not only what the government has done to "Your people" as you > >>>>say. It is what this government is doing to all of us Americans. We > >>>>must tear down the barriers and get together. I'll probably get a call > >>>>from the IRS, but we must replace this government. > > >Why might you receive a call from the Internal revenue > >Service regarding your posting? > > I asked as well. > > I think his "reasoning" is much like the extremist religious zealots > here in the United States who make hundreds of thousands of dollars > off the gullible by selling stories of "Satanic ritual abuse" as they > go on the talk circuit. They all claim at one point that they're in > danger of getting whacked by "telling the truth." > > There are also UFO nut cases who write books which begin, "If I > disappear tomorow, this book will tell you why..." They think that > if they create a conspiracy against them it lends their claims an air > of validity. It's no different than when fake "eye weitnesses" for > talk shows and pseudo-documentaries show just their darkened outline > "for their safety" when interviewed. > > --------------------------------- > "de omnibus dubitandum" | That is not dead which can eternal lie, > All is to be doubted - Descartes | And with strange eons even death may die > --------------------------------- > The Skeptic Tank: http://www.stbbs.com/personal/frice/index.htm > The Skeptic Tank direct: (818) 335-9601 (FidoNet 1:218/890.0) Published: Oct. 6, 1996 BY GARY WEBB AND PAMELA KRAMER Mercury News Staff Writer LOS ANGELES -- Former Los Angeles County narcotics detective Bobby Juarez heard lots of strange stories from drug dealers over the years, but nothing matched what came out of Ronald Jay Lister's mouth the morning Juarez raided the cocaine dealer's stately Mission Viejo home in 1986. ''(Lister) was standing there in his bathrobe, and I told him we were there to execute a search warrant,'' Juarez recalled in an interview Thursday in a Wilshire Boulevard coffee shop. ''Lister looked at me and said, "I know what you're doing and you're not supposed to be here.' When I asked why not, he said he was working with the CIA.'' Court records and FBI files say Lister, an ex-Laguna Beach burglary detective, was a central part of a Nicaraguan drug ring that was dumping thousands of kilos of cocaine into black neighborhoods in Los Angeles during the 1980s. Lister pleaded guilty to federal cocaine charges in 1991 and is serving a prison sentence in Phoenix. Recently, the Mercury News obtained long-suppressed copies of the police reports of the 1986 raid on the drug ring, interviewed members of the raid team and obtained documents that officers say were seized from Lister's house. Together, they support a long-held belief by the police officers that there was CIA involvement in both the Nicaraguan drug ring and the disappearance of some evidence seized during the raids. Warrant and affidavit to search businesses and residences of Oscar Danilo Blandon FBI Teletype regarding conversation with Ronald Lister's real estate agent Juarez, the first member of the raid team to speak publicly about that day in late October 1986, said he was not impressed by Lister's CIA claims. His official report of the encounter picks up the tale from there: ''Mr. Lister ... told me that he had dealings in South America and worked with the CIA and added that his friends in Washington weren't going to like what was going on. I told Mr. Lister that we were not interested in his business in South America. Mr. Lister replied that he would call Mr. Weekly of the CIA and report me.'' There is no further identification of ''Mr. Weekly'' in the documents. The search of two of Lister's residences yielded everything from military training manuals to a business proposal for surveillance and intelligence services for El Salvador's military and police. Juarez, now 51, said he was told a day after the raid that the CIA had taken that property out of the police evidence room. Though many of the raid records still exist, the report on the fate of Lister's property is missing. According to a sworn statement police filed to obtain the search warrants, Lister and others were dealing drugs and laundering money on behalf of a CIA-sponsored guerrilla army in Nicaragua, the Nicaraguan Democratic Force, so it could buy weapons and supplies. The drug ring's L.A. boss, cocaine trafficker Danilo Blandon, has since become a highly trusted Drug Enforcement Agency informant and recently admitted the scheme under oath. The CIA has denied any involvement with either Blandon or the drug ring's boss, Nicaraguan drug smuggler Norwin Meneses, both of whom were top civilian officials in the intelligence agency's anti-communist Contra army. A Mercury News series in August detailed the role of Blandon and Meneses in introducing relatively inexpensive powder cocaine into black Los Angeles neighborhoods, where street gangs turned it into ''crack'' and helped spark the nationwide crack explosion. Juarez was one of dozens of police officers and federal agents who fanned out through Los Angeles and Orange County that day to break up Blandon's sprawling drug operation. Federal agents had known for several years before the raid that the ring was selling large amounts of cocaine in South-Central L.A. Like several other deputies who participated in the raid -- including the raid's leader -- Juarez later was indicted and convicted of skimming drug money from dealers arrested by his elite anti-drug unit, Majors 2. Dozens of pages of records relating to the 1986 raid were obtained from the sheriff's office by Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Los Angeles, on Wednesday when she walked in unannounced and demanded them. The department had repeatedly told the Mercury News that the records did not exist. Waters gave copies of the records to the newspaper. Sheriff Sherman Block repeatedly has declined to respond to questions about the files. The files corroborate many of the claims made in a legal motion filed during the 1990 corruption trial of Deputy Daniel Garner, another narcotics officer who raided Blandon's drug ring. The motion, filed by Garner's attorney Harland W. Braun, claimed military training manuals, photos of Contra bases and documents linking the U.S. government to money laundering and cocaine dealing were hauled out of the houses raided by the deputies that morning. Gag order silenced attorney Braun was served with a federal gag order after he told the media in 1990 that he had proof that the U.S. government was involved in drug trafficking and money laundering. The inventory prepared by Juarez of items taken from Lister's houses includes one box of training manuals, one envelope containing military training films, photos, six passports, financial statements, a green bag with miscellaneous papers and a cocaine preparation kit. One of the most inflammatory claims in Braun's 1990 motion opposing the gag order was that CIA agents appearing at the sheriff's station within 48 hours of the raid took away Lister's documents. that ''everything we took out of that one house of Lister's disappeared. ... I came in the next day and (Deputy) Dan (Garner) said, "Well, Bobby, you missed it. The CIA came in and took everything out of the property room.' And, sure enough, when I went to look, it was all gone.'' The only things clearly missing from the files given to Waters are records showing what became of Lister's seized files. Waters said the sheriff's office could not explain why there was no record of that property being taken out of the evidence room. ''Either the property is still sitting there,'' Juarez said, ''or it was stolen out of the evidence locker, and that's a felony.'' Before the documents vanished, however, some of the detectives made copies of a few of the files and hid them. One of those detectives was Juarez, who provided the Mercury News with a copy of an Oct. 18, 1982, business proposal he said he found inside Lister's house. There are 10 documents taken from Lister's house that are still under seal in Los Angeles federal court, according to Braun. The lengthy business proposal, written in Spanish on the letterhead of Pyramid International Security Consultants Inc., is addressed to Gen. Juan Guillermo Garcia, El Salvador's minister of defense and public security. Pyramid International, a company Lister told the FBI in 1986 that he owned, offered to provide security, surveillance and intelligence services for the newly elected right-wing government of El Salvador. Proposal to El Salvador ''A few months ago, and after the recent elections, (Pyramid) started conversations with the government of El Salvador with the conviction of being able to assist the new government in its goal of fighting against the tyrannic forces of the left, promoted and assisted by the current governments in Nicaragua, Cuba and the Soviet Union,'' the proposal begins. The proposal, stamped ''Confidential'' on every page and translated by a court interpreter hired by the Mercury News, discusses ways to keep important military and industrial installations protected from sabotage and terrorism. Among the unnamed company officials listed in the proposal are a ''specialist in the design and manufacture of unique weapons,'' ''technicians with the CIA in physical security for 20 years'' and an unnamed 1948 graduate of Northwestern University who is a retired naval intelligence officer with experience in ''the administration of the compulsionŠ of drugs.'' ''I'd never found anything like this in a cocaine dealer's house,'' Juarez said. Los Angeles attorney Christopher Moore, who worked as an office assistant for Lister's company in 1982, said in a recent interview that Lister flew him to San Salvador in June 1982 to ''baby-sit'' a U.S. government contract the security firm had to protect a military air base in El Salvador. ''I ended up in an office in downtown San Salvador sitting across the table from Roberto D'Aubisson,'' Moore recalled, ''and I find out later that this was guy who was supposed to be the father of the (Salvadoran) death squads. It was sort of the highlight of my life for a while.'' D'Aubisson was an ultra-right-wing politician who died of cancer a few years ago. Asked if Lister, a ''Mr. Weekly'' or Pyramid International had any connections to the CIA, agency spokesman Dennis Boxx on Friday declined to answer. Boxx said: ''I'm not going to go into any discussion of others who may or may not have had any relationship with us.'' Para ver articulo completo con mas detalles que no se ven aqui ver: http://www.sjmercury.com/drugs/postscript.htm

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