Subject: Re: Crack Cocaine;San Jose Mercury;George Bush Not CIA?
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 00:45:38 -0700
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
> email@example.com (Roberto Saza) wrote:
> >>>> It is not only what the government has done to "Your people" as you
> >>>>say. It is what this government is doing to all of us Americans. We
> >>>>must tear down the barriers and get together. I'll probably get a call
> >>>>from the IRS, but we must replace this government.
> >Why might you receive a call from the Internal revenue
> >Service regarding your posting?
> I asked as well.
> I think his "reasoning" is much like the extremist religious zealots
> here in the United States who make hundreds of thousands of dollars
> off the gullible by selling stories of "Satanic ritual abuse" as they
> go on the talk circuit. They all claim at one point that they're in
> danger of getting whacked by "telling the truth."
> There are also UFO nut cases who write books which begin, "If I
> disappear tomorow, this book will tell you why..." They think that
> if they create a conspiracy against them it lends their claims an air
> of validity. It's no different than when fake "eye weitnesses" for
> talk shows and pseudo-documentaries show just their darkened outline
> "for their safety" when interviewed.
> "de omnibus dubitandum" | That is not dead which can eternal lie,
> All is to be doubted - Descartes | And with strange eons even death may die
> The Skeptic Tank: http://www.stbbs.com/personal/frice/index.htm
> The Skeptic Tank direct: (818) 335-9601 (FidoNet 1:218/890.0)
Published: Oct. 6, 1996
BY GARY WEBB
AND PAMELA KRAMER
Mercury News Staff Writer
LOS ANGELES -- Former Los Angeles County narcotics detective
Bobby Juarez heard lots of strange stories from drug dealers over the
years, but nothing matched what came out of Ronald Jay Lister's
mouth the morning Juarez raided the cocaine dealer's stately Mission
Viejo home in 1986.
''(Lister) was standing there in his bathrobe, and I told him we were
there to execute a search warrant,'' Juarez recalled in an interview
Thursday in a Wilshire Boulevard coffee shop. ''Lister looked at me
and said, "I know what you're doing and you're not supposed to be
here.' When I asked why not, he said he was working with the CIA.''
Court records and FBI files say Lister, an ex-Laguna Beach burglary
detective, was a central part of a Nicaraguan drug ring that was
dumping thousands of kilos of cocaine into black neighborhoods in
Los Angeles during the 1980s. Lister pleaded guilty to federal cocaine
charges in 1991 and is serving a prison sentence in Phoenix.
Recently, the Mercury News obtained long-suppressed copies of the
police reports of the 1986 raid on the drug ring, interviewed members
of the raid team and obtained documents that officers say were
seized from Lister's house. Together, they support a long-held belief
by the police officers that there was CIA involvement in both the
Nicaraguan drug ring and the disappearance of some evidence seized
during the raids.
Warrant and affidavit to search
residences of Oscar
Ronald Lister's real
Juarez, the first member of the raid team to speak publicly about that
day in late October 1986, said he was not impressed by Lister's CIA
claims. His official report of the encounter picks up the tale from
there: ''Mr. Lister ... told me that he had dealings in South America
and worked with the CIA and added that his friends in Washington
weren't going to like what was going on. I told Mr. Lister that we
were not interested in his business in South America. Mr. Lister
replied that he would call Mr. Weekly of the CIA and report me.''
There is no further identification of ''Mr. Weekly'' in the documents.
The search of two of Lister's residences yielded everything from
military training manuals to a business proposal for surveillance and
intelligence services for El Salvador's military and police.
Juarez, now 51, said he was told a day after the raid that the CIA had
taken that property out of the police evidence room. Though many of
the raid records still exist, the report on the fate of Lister's
property is missing.
According to a sworn statement police filed to obtain the search
warrants, Lister and others were dealing drugs and laundering money
on behalf of a CIA-sponsored guerrilla army in Nicaragua, the
Nicaraguan Democratic Force, so it could buy weapons and supplies.
The drug ring's L.A. boss, cocaine trafficker Danilo Blandon, has
since become a highly trusted Drug Enforcement Agency informant
and recently admitted the scheme under oath.
The CIA has denied any involvement with either Blandon or the drug
ring's boss, Nicaraguan drug smuggler Norwin Meneses, both of
whom were top civilian officials in the intelligence agency's
anti-communist Contra army. A Mercury News series in August
detailed the role of Blandon and Meneses in introducing relatively
inexpensive powder cocaine into black Los Angeles neighborhoods,
where street gangs turned it into ''crack'' and helped spark the
nationwide crack explosion.
Juarez was one of dozens of police officers and federal agents who
fanned out through Los Angeles and Orange County that day to break
up Blandon's sprawling drug operation. Federal agents had known for
several years before the raid that the ring was selling large amounts
of cocaine in South-Central L.A.
Like several other deputies who participated in the raid -- including
the raid's leader -- Juarez later was indicted and convicted of
skimming drug money from dealers arrested by his elite anti-drug
unit, Majors 2.
Dozens of pages of records relating to the 1986 raid were obtained
from the sheriff's office by Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Los Angeles, on
Wednesday when she walked in unannounced and demanded them.
The department had repeatedly told the Mercury News that the
records did not exist. Waters gave copies of the records to the
Sheriff Sherman Block repeatedly has declined to respond to
questions about the files.
The files corroborate many of the claims made in a legal motion filed
during the 1990 corruption trial of Deputy Daniel Garner, another
narcotics officer who raided Blandon's drug ring. The motion, filed
by Garner's attorney Harland W. Braun, claimed military training
manuals, photos of Contra bases and documents linking the U.S.
government to money laundering and cocaine dealing were hauled out
of the houses raided by the deputies that morning.
Gag order silenced attorney
Braun was served with a federal gag order after he told the media in
1990 that he had proof that the U.S. government was involved in
drug trafficking and money laundering.
The inventory prepared by Juarez of items taken from Lister's houses
includes one box of training manuals, one envelope containing
military training films, photos, six passports, financial statements, a
green bag with miscellaneous papers and a cocaine preparation kit.
One of the most inflammatory claims in Braun's 1990 motion
opposing the gag order was that CIA agents appearing at the sheriff's
station within 48 hours of the raid took away Lister's documents.
that ''everything we took out of that one house of
Lister's disappeared. ... I came in the next day and (Deputy) Dan
(Garner) said, "Well, Bobby, you missed it. The CIA came in and
took everything out of the property room.' And, sure enough, when I
went to look, it was all gone.''
The only things clearly missing from the files given to Waters are
records showing what became of Lister's seized files. Waters said the
sheriff's office could not explain why there was no record of that
property being taken out of the evidence room.
''Either the property is still sitting there,'' Juarez said, ''or it
out of the evidence locker, and that's a felony.''
Before the documents vanished, however, some of the detectives
made copies of a few of the files and hid them. One of those
detectives was Juarez, who provided the Mercury News with a copy
of an Oct. 18, 1982, business proposal he said he found inside
Lister's house. There are 10 documents taken from Lister's house
that are still under seal in Los Angeles federal court, according to
The lengthy business proposal, written in Spanish on the letterhead of
Pyramid International Security Consultants Inc., is addressed to Gen.
Juan Guillermo Garcia, El Salvador's minister of defense and public
security. Pyramid International, a company Lister told the FBI in
1986 that he owned, offered to provide security, surveillance and
intelligence services for the newly elected right-wing government of
Proposal to El Salvador
''A few months ago, and after the recent elections, (Pyramid) started
conversations with the government of El Salvador with the
conviction of being able to assist the new government in its goal of
fighting against the tyrannic forces of the left, promoted and assisted
by the current governments in Nicaragua, Cuba and the Soviet
Union,'' the proposal begins.
The proposal, stamped ''Confidential'' on every page and translated by
a court interpreter hired by the Mercury News, discusses ways to
keep important military and industrial installations protected from
sabotage and terrorism.
Among the unnamed company officials listed in the proposal are a
''specialist in the design and manufacture of unique weapons,''
''technicians with the CIA in physical security for 20 years'' and an
unnamed 1948 graduate of Northwestern University who is a retired
naval intelligence officer with experience in ''the administration of
compulsionŠ of drugs.''
''I'd never found anything like this in a cocaine dealer's house,''
Los Angeles attorney Christopher Moore, who worked as an office
assistant for Lister's company in 1982, said in a recent interview that
Lister flew him to San Salvador in June 1982 to ''baby-sit'' a U.S.
government contract the security firm had to protect a military air
base in El Salvador.
''I ended up in an office in downtown San Salvador sitting across the
table from Roberto D'Aubisson,'' Moore recalled, ''and I find out later
that this was guy who was supposed to be the father of the
(Salvadoran) death squads. It was sort of the highlight of my life for
D'Aubisson was an ultra-right-wing politician who died of cancer a
few years ago.
Asked if Lister, a ''Mr. Weekly'' or Pyramid International had any
connections to the CIA, agency spokesman Dennis Boxx on Friday
declined to answer.
Boxx said: ''I'm not going to go into any discussion of others who
may or may not have had any relationship with us.''
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